‘They Want to Destroy the United States,’ Andy Ngo Elaborates on Antifa

BY SAMUEL ALLEGRI February 7, 2021 Updated: February 7, 2021

Andy Ngo, journalist and author of the recent release “Unmasked: Inside Antifa’s Radical Plan to Destroy Democracy,” told NTD that Antifa isn’t about to just fade away because former President Donald Trump has left office.

Talking about his research on the inner mechanics and goals of Antifa, Ngo said that Antifa capitalized on claims in 2016 that Trump’s term was a fascist regime to assert that their group was all about opposing American fascism.

But according to Ngo, “That was always just a pretext for them to cause misery and carry out homicides and attacks,” Ngo said. “Now, they say that they’re just opposing America itself, because America uphold systems of fascism that is interlinked with white supremacy and racism.”

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Andy Ngo. (NTD)

Ngo said that the perception of Antifa fading away with an announcement of a Biden election victory was incorrect.

“They rioted in Portland, for example, on the fourth of November. There’s been around a dozen riots in Portland and Seattle since then,” he said. “On the day that Biden was inaugurated, importantly, they actually destroyed the headquarters of the Oregon Democratic Party. And in Seattle, there were some riots as well.”

Andy believes that the Democratic party is not as closely related to Antifa as some people think it to be. Rather, they just had a common enemy (Trump) that allied them temporarily.

“Antifa has existed on the fringes of the far left in the United States, really, since about the 80s,” Ngo said. But following recent events, the Democrats have actually helped Antifa capture space in the mainstream left.

“Both of them were using irresponsible language and talking points about how this [the Trump administration] was ascendant American fascism, that we were on the cusp of another Holocaust,” Ngo said.

Ngo said that the idea of opposing white supremacy and neo-nazis gave Antifa an “opening to move in,” But according to his observations, the group’s violent attacks have been indiscriminate.

“What I was witnessing on the ground in my home city—Portland, the epicenter of American Antifa—that they were carrying out indiscriminate acts of violence, not just against property but against people. And they kept continuing to escalate and escalate,” he told NTD.

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Antifa members prepare to clash with Patriot Prayer protesters during a rally in Portland, Ore., on Aug. 4, 2018. (John Rudoff/AP Photo)

“It was becoming embedded in Portland. It was becoming routine for us to have political violence on the streets, brawls for over a number of years. And then in 2020, they exploited the death of George Floyd to carry out acts of carnage, not just in Portland but in dozens of other American cities where they literally burned down neighborhoods to the ground, destroyed numerous lives, destroyed livelihoods,” Ngo said.

The mainstream media hasn’t done a good job at explaining with exactitude what Antifa is, Ngo asserted, leading many to perhaps sympathize with the group that was being described as “anti-fascist protesters opposing racists and the far-right and white supremacists.”

“It sounds very noble and it makes people want to get on board with that, because that sounds entirely reasonable,” Ngo said. “But then, as I write in my book, you dive into the ideology of Antifa. And you look at the literature, you look at the thinkers that they look up to, the texts that form the basis of tenants of their ideology. You see very clearly that these are anarchists, communists.”

Andy said that their “students” go through extensive ideological indoctrination, lasting months at a time, and also in their “curriculum” they are taught how to make home made weapons, how to use guns, and how to shoot.

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Andy Ngo, a Portland-based journalist, is seen covered in an unknown substance after Antifa extremists assaulted him in Portland, Oregon, on June 29, 2019. (Moriah Ratner/Getty Images)

Ngo continued: “When they talk about wanting to burn down the system, they do mean that literally. They want to destroy the United States, and not just destroying the nation-state but actually all its founding ideals. They view, for example, property rights, and freedom of expression, and other important founding ideas that make up the American philosophy, as the actors for fascism.”

White Collar Professionals and the Vulnerable

Ngo said that from arrestee records followings many months of rioting in Portland, he found that the people who join Antifa belonged mostly to two groups: white collar professionals; “such as academia, journalism, some of them were attorneys,” and those who are extremely vulnerable, such as the homeless who were perhaps attracted by the food and shelter camps set up by the group.

Then, these vulnerable individuals are “given riot gear and told and instructed to participate in the violence.”

“These are usually the people who are first victimized and getting arrested and all that and getting injured or getting charged,” Ngo said. “And the people who are pulling the strings in the background, such as those who are making homemade weapons and homemade IEDs, and giving them out and passing them out to people, those people don’t get apprehended. So I have a certain amount of sympathy for the people that are victimized, because they’re pulled until this extremist ideology, and use as fodder for a larger political agenda.”

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A man who was later assaulted by Antifa, second from left, faces off with Rose City Antifa members at Pioneer Courthouse Square in Portland, Oregon, on June 29, 2019. (Moriah Ratner/Getty Images)
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An unidentified protester injured by Antifa extremists at Pioneer Courthouse Square on June 29, 2019. (Moriah Ratner/Getty Images)

Americans have to understand that Antifa has quite wide appeal among the educated, Ngo said, because “the ideological theoretical frameworks that form the basis of the ideologies are based off of historical thinkers, anarchists and communists thinkers. And so it does appeal to those who are educated.”

“So we shouldn’t be surprised that some of the people who have been either convicted or accused of being part of Antifa violence have been academics,” he added. (Click to Source)

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